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Hibernation woes -- follow up

Ted Hilts

2008-05-10

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Derek Broughton wrote:
Ted Hilts wrote:

  
Here are the results of the "free" command. Somehow I missed your email
requesting the results of the "free" command. 
    

There wasn't a request about "free", but I was trying to find out what sort
of swap you had, and whether you have a "resume" option in the grub boot
options.  That doesn't matter now, because "free" makes the problem clear.

  
My email shows 3 threads 
under the primary thread so I may have accidentally read your request
incompletely thinking it was a resend. I apologize! Thanks for your
tolerance.

ted@Ubuntu:~$ free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 2596008 1453768 1142240 0 268616 510000
-/+ buffers/cache: 675152 1920856
Swap: 854272 500192 354080
ted@Ubuntu:~$

The above is with 5 desktops with at least 1 very big application and a
dozen small applications and including VNC.
    

So you need a bigger swap partition (or perhaps just an extra one - I'm not
sure if hibernate can handle split partitions).

You have ~1.4GB of memory in use, and ~0.8GB of total swap space.  Some
compression occurs, and probably some memory that is known to be
discardable will be left out of swap altogether, but there's still no
chance that you can cram the memory being used for all that into your swap.

You've probably been misled by suggestions on the web that if you have so
much real memory, you don't need a large swap space.  And for normal
operation, that's true, because if you have more physical memory than you
ever use you won't use swap.  But since hibernation essentially works by
swapping out everything that's currently running, you need _at the very
least_ as much swap space as you have physical memory.
  

Derek Broughton
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Thanks for identifying the solution to my problem.  I stayed quiet until you were finished with the others and I was trying to figure out a way to deal with my situation (too little swap). I have included directly below a lot of system information followed by the question "Also, if I can use this tar backup on /media/sdc1 what would be the command lines to prepare Ubuntu on /media/sdc1???????????". If you choose to help me you will have to wade through this information. The overall idea is not to scrap the present dual boot Ubuntu/XP installation but rather to create a clone Ubuntu of the present one on the same machine and with maximum swamp. Please read on if you can spare the time to help me. If this turns out to be complex my response time might be one or two days while I try to get my head around the issues.  Thanks.

I have freed up one of 5 hard drives (approx. 250 GB) on the dual boot Ubuntu/XP system.

I did the following backup on Ubuntu:
sudo -s -H;cd /;tar -cvzf /media/sdd1/backup-Fri02May2008.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/media/sdd1/backup-Fri02May2008.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media/cdrom --exclude=/media/cdrom0 --exclude=/media/floppy --exclude=/media/floppy0 --exclude=/media/sda1 --exclude=/media/sda2 --exclude=/media/sdb1 --exclude=/media/sdc1 --exclude=/media/sdd1 --exclude=/media/sde1 --exclude=/media/sdf1 --exclude=/media/sdg1 --exclude=/media --exclude=/Mted-cic2ext --exclude=/Mted-CICERO --exclude=/Mted-CICERO-D --exclude=/Mted-CICERO-F --exclude=/Mted-market --exclude=/Mted-molly --exclude=/sys /

One of my questions -- given the above backup -- is: Can I use this empty hard drive to install my present Ubuntu using the backup?  Ubuntu on this dual boot system is on the XP C drive or from Ubuntu's perspective the SDA3 drive with SDA1 and SDA2 for the XP.  Here is the mount info:

ted@Ubuntu:~$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2596008    1453768    1142240          0     268616     510000
-/+ buffers/cache:     675152    1920856
Swap:       854272     500192     354080
ted@Ubuntu:~$
ted@Ubuntu:~$ mount
/dev/sda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
/dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sdd1 on /media/sdd1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sde1 on /media/sde1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sdf1 on /media/sdf1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
/dev/sdg1 on /media/sdg1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw)
capifs on /dev/capi type capifs (rw,mode=0666)
nfsd on /proc/fs/nfsd type nfsd (rw)
//CICERO/D on /Mted-CICERO-D type smbfs (rw)
ted@Ubuntu:~$

So the hard drive I would prepare would be: /media/sdc1

Another question: Would there be a boot problem because using this hard drive as I understand (from away back in time) the boot system and the active hard drive would be on SDA (or from the perspective of XP, the C drive.)  I am not sure how grub would handle this situation (3 instead of 2 boot systems with one on a currently "none active" hard drive. 

Here is my /etc/fstab:
ted@Ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
# /dev/sda3
UUID=c8f92b8f-2f46-4500-929b-ccf369500593 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
# /dev/sda1
UUID=2ED6-1123  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sda2
UUID=58BCBB80BCBB56EA /media/sda2     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sdb1
UUID=E83698FB3698CC46 /media/sdb1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sdc1
UUID=581CE03A1CE01532 /media/sdc1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sdd1
UUID=2018EC4E18EC248E /media/sdd1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sde1
UUID=3698FF2798FEE3F1 /media/sde1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
#UUID=3698FF2798FEE3F1 /media/sde1     ntfs    defaults,gid=ted,uid=ted,umask=007 0 1
# /dev/sdf1
UUID=8868FAEC68FAD7C0 /media/sdf1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sdg1
UUID=D02C35002C34E360 /media/sdg1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
# /dev/sda4
UUID=891e4299-a126-4f0a-9b2c-b772bb91a47c none            swap    sw              0       0
/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
ted@Ubuntu:~$

Also, if I can use this tar backup on /media/sdc1 what would be the command lines to prepare Ubuntu on /media/sdc1???????????

Thanks, Ted.



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