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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Forget Hardy (Bart Silverstrim)
  2. Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy (Smoot Carl-Mitchell)
  3. Re: update manager error (NoOp)
  4. Re: Forget Hardy (Peter Garrett)
  5. Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 177 (arun singh)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:30:09 -0400
From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com>
Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
       <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
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Karl Larsen wrote:
> Bart Silverstrim wrote:
>> Karl Larsen wrote:
>>
>>> Derek Broughton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Res wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> since I was right and you
>>>>> dont want to look at it from any other angle than what suits your own list
>>>>> nazi mates, I *will* end my participation in the thread,
>>>>>
>>>     Well this thread has been right for my computer. I have tried to
>>> load hardy 5 times and every time it errors out and just drops back to
>>> the CD. I will stop now and wait for the next version. There may be
>>> something wrong with my computer, but the 7.10 CD loads just like it did
>>> a year ago.
>>>
>> You have a propensity for declaring the problem to be X instead of
>> asking...but, you DID run an MD5 sum on the downloaded file to make sure
>> you didn't corrupt the download, yeah?
>>
>>
>     I ran the cd test that is on the cd. It said it was fine. In fact
> both of my cd's pass the test.

Just in case, and since it only takes a few minutes to do, run the MD5
sum against your .iso image and compare it to the website's stated MD5.

The usual checklist...BIOS is set to boot from CD...

You're saying it's *starting* to boot from the CD, then quits? So this
confirms that the computer sees it and starts booting from it?

I don't know what you mean when you say that it "drops back to the CD".



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:29:32 -0700
From: Smoot Carl-Mitchell <smoot@tic.com>
Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy
To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
       <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <1213284573.30854.39.camel@smoot.tic.com>
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On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 10:16 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Avi Greenbury wrote:

> > For usb drives and the like, I like (and use) UUID.
> > For devices for which I know the /dev address, I use /dev.
>
> The problem is, you don't "know" the /dev address.  You know it today, but
> there's no guarantee that changes made by either you (eg, deleting an
> unused partition) or a kernel update won't change that address in future.

/dev addresses are just a mapping to the filesystem for a character or
block device.  They can be put anywhere, but /dev is the historic place
where they reside in the filesystem tree. The names are even
configurable.  See manual page for udev which is the system that manages
the dev tree.  You will even see that /dev is a mount point to the
"udev" filesystem. This makes sense, since this part of the filesystem
tree gets recreated on every reboot and as Derek points out, there is no
guarantee the name mapping will be the same on the next reboot or if you
add or delete hardware, etc.

UUID and Label are just a way for abstracting the contents of a disk
away from the filesystem namspace. e.g. the dev name space is an
abstraction of the underlying hardware addresses to a name in the
filesystem name space.  UUID or Label abstract the filesystem name into
a more global or readable namespace.  UUID is preferred because the
namespace is suppose to be globally unique.

On a desktop system, I think UUID is a bit of overkill, but if you have
ever moved disks between servers, either physically or virtually on a
SAN fabric, it can be a lifesaver. It was a bit jarring to move to the
UUID system, but once I found out how the system works, I find it a lot
easier than doing things the old way.

If you want to see some of the gory details, take a look at
the /dev/disk tree.
--
Smoot Carl-Mitchell
System/Network Architect
smoot@tic.com
+1 480 922 7313
cell: +1 602 421 9005



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:30:10 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: update manager error
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <g2rfe3$gc3$1@ger.gmane.org>
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On 06/11/2008 08:55 PM, Michael.Coll-Barth@VerizonWireless.com wrote:
> <mad snipping>
>> From: NoOp
>> On 06/11/2008 10:30 AM, nik gare wrote:
>> >>> sudo apt-get update
>> >
>> > you might want to do "sudo apt-get clean" here
>> >
>> >>> sudo apt-get upgrade
>>
>> Good catch - thanks.
> </mad snipping>
>
> thanks guys, but no luck.  I get the same error message.  I even went so
> far as to delete and download the file manually.  I did learn a little
> about the sources.list file.
>
> At the moment I am trying to figure out how to use fsck so that it just
> reports what's wrong with the fs.  Sort of like chkdsk in the windows
> world.  But it is late and I am leaving it alone before I do something
> stupid.
>

There was a similar issue on this list in January 2007:

<https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-January/104520.html>

However, this appears to be a simpler solution:

https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2591

$ echo -en '\n' | sudo tee -a /var/lib/dpkg/info/gxine.list

replace gxine.list with gnome-volume-manager.list

Here is a copy of mine so that you can compare with yours:

/.
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/gnome-volume-manager
/usr/bin/gnome-volume-properties
/usr/bin/gnome-volume-manager-gthumb
/usr/share
/usr/share/gnome-volume-manager
/usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/icons
/usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/icons/gvm-dev-tablet.png
/usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-properties.glade
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/README
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/TODO
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/AUTHORS
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/README.Debian
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/copyright
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/NEWS.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/gnome-volume-manager/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/applications
/usr/share/applications/gnome-volume-properties.desktop
/usr/share/man
/usr/share/man/man1
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-volume-manager.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gnome-volume-properties.1.gz
/usr/share/gconf
/usr/share/gconf/schemas
/usr/share/gconf/schemas/gnome-volume-manager.schemas
/etc
/etc/xdg
/etc/xdg/autostart
/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-volume-manager.desktop
/usr/share/gnome-volume-manager/gnome-volume-manager-gthumb.sh





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:30:48 +1000
From: Peter Garrett <peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <20080613013048.f57f8bb1.peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:54:45 -0500
Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:

> Peter Garrett wrote:
> >
> > I also came to Debian through Knoppix, originally. Knoppix was never
> > intended as a hard-drive install, as Klaus Knopper himself often said.
> > For example, a dist-upgrade from a Knoppix install was pretty much
> > guaranteed to break, and Knoppix used a mix of stable, testing and
> > unstable, which is close to heresy from a Debian viewpoint. :)
>
> ...and the fact that it had to be in order to work points out the
> problem with debian and why most of us aren't using it.

This is simply not so. If you know about other Knoppix-ish distros -
several of them were based on "pure" Sid. Morphix was one. Another was
Kanotix. As far as I know, Kanotix is still around. It's also quite
possible to roll your own live CD based on Debian or Ubuntu. I've done
that with both at various times. They both work just fine... and I
assure you that the differences are minimal when you look at the base
systems without the added bells and whistles.

As far as Debian needing to be a mix of stable, testing and unstable in
order to "work" - excuse me while I chuckle and chortle ... ;-)

> > Someone will probably pull me up on this - but as far as I can see,
> > technically the Ubuntu way and the Debian way are practically
> > identical.
>
> Except when they aren't.

And that would be when, exactly? I was referring to the technical
aspects and particularly the packaging system. Perhaps you can
enlighten me...

> > I think the issue with both "Debian" distros and Gentoo is that both
> > have quirks.
>
> All systems have quirks.

Truisms are fun, aren't they?

> The difference is in how many are
> automatically handled by the installer and administration code and how
> many waste user/administrator time to get a working system. Ubuntu comes
> out ahead in this respect, but as a side effect it permits, even
> encourages, people who don't fully understand it to have systems that
> mostly work.

Well, ... yes... and... ?

> And these people will sometimes answer questions on mail
> lists incorrectly with something that just happened to work for them
> which is more of a trigger for rambling threads like this than the
> newbie question that was posted in the first place.

Not really sure what your point is. I don't see how this is peculiar to
Ubuntu at all, if that is the implication. As for rambling threads - I
see them as an interesting symptom to be diagnosed. In other words, I
ask myself and others the question as to what causes them - and I don't
think that's about Ubuntu enabling people to have half-baked ideas
about what "works". I've seen those on a lot of lists.


--
Peter Garrett <peter.garrett@optusnet.com.au>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:26:40 +0530
From: "arun singh" <arun.arwachin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 46, Issue 177
To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
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10).Installtion of compiz-fusion

>>Arun asks about compiz fusion

Hi i am trying to install the compiz fusion but unable to do it.......
please guide me how can i install it....Step by step procedure......

waiting for ur  Solutions

Arun k. Singh

Computing systems UG student
Ping me :arun.arwachin@hotmail.com
Ring me :00-91-9873-465-526

Thanx



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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. Re: Hardy is in (Karl Larsen)
>   2. Re: Forget Hardy (Res)
>   3. Re: best graphical mode on ubuntu 8.04 server (David Curtis)
>   4. Re: not able to connec to the internet (Bart Silverstrim)
>   5. Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy (David Fox)
>   6. Re: Forget Hardy (Bart Silverstrim)
>   7. Re: Vista (running ubuntu) (John Cavan)
>   8. Re: not able to connec to the internet (Bart Silverstrim)
>   9. Re: Hardy is in (CJ Kelley)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:51:32 -0600
> From: Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com>
> Subject: Re: Hardy is in
> To: philsexton@skybest.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for
>        general discussions" <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <48507314.9060104@zianet.com>
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>
> Phil Sexton wrote:
> > Karl Larsen wrote:
> >
> >> I have Hardy d/l and will see how it loads later. From all the problems
> >> seen so far I have reason to wonder if it will work.
> >>
> >
> > I installed it on 2 boxen here and only one quirk with a
> > SoundBlaster Audigy sound card.
> >
> > BTW, did you get caught counterfeiting when you ran a company that
> > made money? };-}
> >
> > I had to earn all my money...
> >
> >
>    No but it seemed that I had to work hard and then meet the payroll
> when the customer has not paid yet. These are the joys of being owner.
> But when it was all over there was a lot of money for me. My wife and I
> have enough even with $4.00 gasoline. But the USA is going broke fast. I
> may not have enough for that.
>
> Karl
>
>
> --
>
>        Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
>        Linux User
>        #450462   http://counter.li.org.
>   PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C  ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:57:01 +1000 (EST)
> From: Res <res@ausics.net>
> Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806121051250.3372@ebfjryy.nhfvpf.arg>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Patton Echols wrote:
>
> > On 06/11/2008 02:58 AM, Res wrote:
> >> That is why people who only generate noise (those telling others to RTFM
> >> etc) should STF up and not comment
> >
> > Uhh, well, just saying "RTFM" or "google is your friend" is not
> > helpful.  But far more often what I see is here is:
> >
> > "RTFM, try $man fm"  or
> > "google is your friend: http://link.to.fm"
> >
> > Frankly that IS helpful.  When a noob emails the list  and says: "how do
> > I get foo working?"  That is probably all they want to know, but they
> > NEED to know how to figure it out.   So giving a link to the FM is
> > actually pretty good advice.
>
> Perhaps this indicates the web site and wiki's need fine tuning.
>
> > If you think there is a lot of ranting, or that this list is
> > intimidating, then you have lead a sheltered life.  Try a newsgroup like
> > alt.comp.security.  The regulars there can be very informative, but some
>
> I'm on 27 mailing lists yielding me about 1300 messages a day, and over a
> dozen usenet groups, my time is limited, I do not live on them because I
> have a life, if I culled the "generated noise' the lsits traffic would be
> about 400, and I could spend more time paying attention to them, when I
> dont because I have to skim into the other 900 messages to ensure they are
> not noise.
>
> > will make a smoldering ruin out of those who don't do a little bit of
> > homework before posting.
>
> You'll find most do, but I have already agreed with others that there
> exists and element that want it all delivered to them on a silver platter
> with them doing no work.
>
>
> --
> Cheers
> Res
>
> I read usenet and lists in pine. But m$ outlook, thunderbird and gmail
> often use html span/whatever for quotes, makes it hard to tell who said
> what, so I dont try. If I ignore you, thats why! Use a compliant mailer.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:08:04 -0400
> From: David Curtis <dcurtis@uniserve.com>
> Subject: Re: best graphical mode on ubuntu 8.04 server
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <485076F4.7050604@uniserve.com>
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> Jeffrey Tooker wrote:
> > Carl Friis-Hansen wrote:
> >> Donny George wrote:
> >>
> >>> hey steve
> >>>
> >>> i did the command and the screen went on scrolling with so many
> packages
> >>> or something. and now its kind of stuck like and says Reloading system
> >>> log daemon and once i press enter i just get the prompt.
> >>>
> >>> is this some kind of error
> >>>
> >>> ??
> >>>
> >>> donny
> >>>
> >> Sounds like all went well, so:
> >> sudo shutdown -r now
> >> should get you restarted.
> >>
> >>
> > Carl:
> >
> > I picked up on this list at some time the use of "Control Alt Backspace"
> > for restarting. I use when xorg reverts to default resolution at
> > startup. One extra try and xorg usually comes up in my desired
> > resolution. Is there a reason not to use "Control Alt Backspace"?
> >
> > Jeffrey
> >
> >
> >
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Ctrl-Alt-Bksp restarts X and you lose all data as all X apps are
> terminated or killed(?). To change resolutions maybe a Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+
> would be better. But to be honest I have no idea why a Ctrl-Alt-Bksp (X
> restart) would change resolutions? Maybe the new way 8.04 handles xorg
> configuration causes this (are you using 8.04?). I don't think this is a
> bad thing, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp, but a bit of a waste of time compared to
> Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+.
>
> Of course the next question is how to make xorg start in the resolution
> of your choosing. Try 'sudo displayconfig-gtk'.
>
>
>
> Dave
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:20:04 -0400
> From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com>
> Subject: Re: not able to connec to the internet
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <485079C4.3000609@chrononomicon.com>
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>
>
> Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> > That will be the last thing :-) I will even spend money on another modem
> > before going back. :-) :-)
> >
> > I really think is some thing with the modem I have. it has an Alcatel
> chip.
> > The information provided by NoOp sais that the EciAdsl driver do not
> support
> > the alcatel chip.
> >
> > I have found a driver that seems to support it,
> > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=86112
> >
> > but I cannot compile it, it gives some errors.
> >
> > I think I will buy an ethernet mothem/ router, if possible something that
> > is  wireless as well as wired :-)
>
> You can do what I do...I have a DSL modem that connects via Ethernet to
> a SOHO router (linksys, dlink, whatever brand) and that router handles
> wireless and 4 ports wired for the network. Windows, Linux, OS
> X...doesn't matter. It's just an ethernet connection.
>
> -Bart
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:26:14 -0700
> From: "David Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
>        <359a3c580806111826g6729a2b1vac2e5fd521b09397@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org> wrote:
>
> >    Still trying to figure out when that change went into effect and whom,
> > exactly, thought it was a good idea.  I mean the traditional method is
> > that the position in the chain determines the letter and the partition
>
> I don't think sda5 could automagically become sda2, but I've had this
> happen, but only recently on my new system rebuild. I have one 500 gig
> drive (currently sdc) because I have two other older IDE drives hooked
> up (hda and hdb), but I'm not actively using them - they're there to
> bring files off when or if I need them.
>
> But if I boot another distro (like a live cd rom of sabayon or sidux)
> those drive assignments change, and I have to sit on my hands and
> think "which drive am I really going to talk to"??
>
> I can see this happening on removables such as usb sticks, but for
> non-removable feed disks those things should be able to stay put.
>
>
> > Steve Lamb
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:31:22 -0400
> From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com>
> Subject: Re: Forget Hardy
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <48507C6A.6050809@chrononomicon.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>
>
> Ari Torhamo wrote:
> > ke, 2008-06-11 kello 10:38 -0400, Bart Silverstrim kirjoitti:
> >> Oliver Grawert wrote:
> >>> hi,
> >>> Am Mittwoch, den 11.06.2008, 09:54 -0400 schrieb Bart Silverstrim:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >>>> You're talking about the spirit of Ubuntu. The spirit of Ubuntu
> doesn't
> >>>> include encouraging ignorance and reliance on others. It means sharing
> >>>> information and learning to make you a better person for the
> experience.
> >>>>
> >>> but also to get this information across in a respectful human way ...
> >> Dammit, there goes my brainworms idea. Respectful, but not quite human.
> >>
> >> Would it be fair to say you just want people to be nice in answering
> >> questions unless provoked?  good summary, yeah? No?
> >>
> >> Again...I really don't think the concerns you're voicing are really
> >> common on this list, but maybe I'm missing something. I'm not really
> >> here to pick a fight with you :-)
> >
> >
> > You seem to be missing yourself. This is what you said yesterday:
> >
> > "?Everyone gets a lashing here at some point. You keep trying to learn
> > and grow a thicker skin and you'd be fine".
>
> I remember saying that...but...how does this contradict what I said in
> the quote before? I was asking you if it would be fair to sum up your
> position as you want people to be nice in answering questions unless the
> answerers are provoked...you're quoting my statement that everyone on
> the list gets a lashing at some point and you just end up chalking it up
> as something that's going to happen. No?
>
> The part beginning "again..." was a reference to the overall topic
> argument in the first place; I don't recall seeing this behavior as
> common, everyday occurrences. This is probably the part you were just
> referring to; respectfully, I submit this elaboration: everyone ends up
> feeling like they are (or really do get) attacked on this list at some
> point, but I don't think it's a common event. I don't post here, and I
> don't think most of the people on the list, post here expecting to be
> abused for it, and there are usually circumstances or some provocation
> when it does happen.
>
> Is that fair?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:33:44 -0400
> From: John Cavan <john@damncats.org>
> Subject: Re: Vista (running ubuntu)
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
>        <ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <48507CF8.9020207@damncats.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> NoOp wrote:
> > On 06/11/2008 09:52 AM, NoOp wrote:
> > Well so much for kvm :-(
> >
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
> >
> > KVM requires a processor that supports 'virtualization' & when I run:
> >
> > egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
> >
> > I receive nothing back. So I reckon that I'm out of luck. I'll just
> > stick with VirtualBox for now.
>
> AMD and Intel started adding virtualization support in 2005/2006 and I
> think all of the dual/quad core processors support it. Wikipedia has a
> pretty good article on the introduction at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization if you're interested.
> It's pretty much assured that the next machine you buy will support it.
>
> John
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:06 -0400
> From: Bart Silverstrim <bsilver@chrononomicon.com>
> Subject: Re: not able to connec to the internet
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
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>
> Felipe DOMINGUEZ wrote:
> > sorry I get lost with this commands.
> >
> > as i said  I am new to linux.
> >
> > I have run them but I don?t seem to see any strange thing
>
> Sorry...at this point I don't know what avenue you're pursuing (new
> router?), but if you want, try posting the contents of
> "dmesg | tail"
> and
> "ifconfig"
> at the point when you run the connection commands but can't get on the
> network.
>
> Then try posting the contents of
> "tail /var/log/messages"
>
> Anyone with a USB modem similar to this know what log may have messages
> for debugging the connection for him to post?
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:11:11 -0600
> From: "CJ Kelley" <debiani386@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Hardy is in
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,     not for general discussions"
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Karl Larsen <k5di@zianet.com> wrote:
>
> > I have Hardy d/l and will see how it loads later. From all the problems
> > seen so far I have reason to wonder if it will work.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > --
> >
> >        Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
> >        Linux User
> >        #450462   http://counter.li.org.
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> >
> > I just installed it the other day on my Toshiba Satellite a200 and it
> works
> perfectly. everything worked out of the box.
>
> besides if you do have a problem, just post it here. we are more then happy
> to help you...thats what were here for :P
>
> --cj
>
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