On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:31:12 -0400, Charles A Edwards <eslrahc@(protected):

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:09:47 -0400
> Charles A Edwards wrote:
>
> > > >> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 17:52 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > > >>  
> > > >>> - Add a new module to ensure that an sink always exists (even if
> > > >>> it is a null-sink)  
> > > >>
> > > >> Fixes the "dozens of error messages when no sound card is
> > > >> present" bug?  
> > > >
> > > > Should do yes.
> > > >
> > > > Fred C tested in KDE One Live CD with this before submitting it.
> > > >
> > > > I think he closed the relevant bug too.  
> > >
> > > Well, this bug is still present in One RC1 and RC2
> >
> >
> > And for me this release causes a behavioural regression that is a more
> > aggravating sound issue than any I have had to previously face since
> > the switch to pulseaudio.
>
> Disregard my previous post.
>
> Pulseaudio was not the cause of the problem.
>
> This system has an onboard intel audio which I have disabled in the
> BIOS and instead use a c-media Xmystique pci card.
>
> For some reason after my last re-boot the snd_hda_intel as well as
> snd_cmipci was being loaded during alsa start.
> I removed and blacklisted snd_hda_intel and sound is well again.
>

I also use two sound cards, one to get sound output to my desktop speakers
and other to get sound for my home cinema. And the possibility of 'combined'
or 'simultaneous' output was what convinced me to use pulse, that was
something I had always looked for.

Perhaps what is needed is a more general setup for pulse. As PCI probing is
nowadays parallel and can give random order, many times the default of using
'the first ALSA device' is not good. Perhaps a default like the 'simultaneous'
output combining the 'null' sink and all the audio devices found in the box
is more sensible, so user has audio whatever the PCI ordering gives, and even
those without any sound device can have a pulse running.

Just my two (€)cents...

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