Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@(protected):

> On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@(protected):
>> > Perhaps you could file a feature request at b.g.o. to get the old
>> > behaviour back. It seems entirely reasonable to me that rhythmbox
>> > should DEPENDs on gst-plugins-base which should conditionally
>> > DEPEND on -alsa or -oss (or other sound systems).
>>
>> Isn't that what the gst-plugins-meta package does?
>>
>> RDEPEND="oss? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-oss-0.10 )
>>      alsa? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10 )
>>      esd? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10 )
>>      X? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10 )
>>      xv? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10 )
>>      dvb? ( media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvb
>>
>>           >=media-libs/gst-plugins-bad-0.10.6
>>           >
>>             >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-fluendo-mpegdemux-0.10
>>             >.15 )
>>
>>      mythtv? ( media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv )"
>>
>> I filed a bug report at
>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214831.
>
> It all makes sense in a kind of roundabout way:

Does it?

gst-plugins-meta MAY install everything, if all the USE flags
are set. But I don't quite get, why rb (or any other gst using
app) should not depend on it.

> gst-plugins-meta installs everything, so rhythmbox does not DEPEND on
> it - that would force a user to have every possible plugin with no
> option to not have them (very much a gentoo no-no).

Nope, that's not the case.

> -meta packages tend
> to not be DEPENDED on, they are there as a convenience for user that
> want everything and can't be bothered to put the whole shebang in
> world.

But that's not what gst-plugins-meta does. Read the ebuild
again. It features alsa, oss and what-not USE flags. And only
if those flags are set, stuff is installed.

> rhythmbox DEPENDS on gst-plugins-base to give you the required framework
> that will handle the plugins you want (you get to pick and install them
> manually...)

No, that's not the case. Read the bug report and read the bugs
that Jakub pointed out there.

> The question now is why were the alsa, oss and other drivers removed
> from the -base ebuild?

Because they belong to the meta package, I suppose. The real
question rather is, why was rb not updated to depend on -meta.
I filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214852 for that.

> I recall something similar with another sound
> app a while ago, the reason is that it could be used as a networked
> sound delivery server and there's no good reason to require the user to
> have sound driver support on the local machine. I suspect your bug will
> be closed WONTFIX, with luck the dev will justify their reasoning.

If not, I'll reopen it.

Michael

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