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Folks,
I wanted to put this out there for your benefit:
When I arrived at work this morning I had a voicemail waiting for me. It
was from some sales rep who works for "an HP Channel Partner", and one
of his people had seen my post and wanted to "provide me with
information"...
Now, I don't know about you, but I'm not on this list to receive sales
pitches. I did NOT post a phone number, nor did I even include an email
signature indicating the compay I work for. Yet this person managed to
call me... Thanks, but no thanks. We get excellent pricing and support
directly from HP if we want it.
Anyway, I'm not sure how others feel about this, but I'm not thrilled
about it - as you can probably tell.
And to the sales people out there on the list - DO NOT CALL ME unless I
ask you to!
Thanks,
Kevin
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From: nahant-list-bounces@(protected)
[mailto:nahant-list-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Collins, Kevin
[MindWorks]
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:10 AM
To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon);
nahant-list@(protected)
Subject: RE: Opinions AMD64 vs EM64T vs Itanium II
Just wanted to say thanks for the many opinions that I have so far
received. In our initial use, these servers will be for serving LDAP,
VNC, HTTP, etc. Nothing where huge performance is required.
However, in the near future these systems will more than likely also be
used to investigate running SAP (on Oracle) and Oracle, so I do
appreciate the information.
Thanks,
Kevin
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From: taroon-list-bounces@(protected)
[mailto:taroon-list-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Collins, Kevin
[MindWorks]
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:31 PM
To: taroon-list@(protected); nahant-list@(protected)
Subject: Opinions AMD64 vs EM64T vs Itanium II
Hi folks,
we are in the process of buying some blades for our HP blade
center to use for Linux servers. Since we are starting fresh, and I have
no practical experience with Linux on 64-bit, I figured I would ask for
input from the Taroon and Nahant list.
Are there any technical reasons to prefer AMD64 (Opteron), EM64T (Xeon)
or Itanium II CPUs? Are there things that don't work in RedHat on any of
those platforms with either RHEL3 or RHEL4?
Beyond that, we are currently running 32-bit on 32bit Xeon processors -
I'm think I can also run 32-bit RedHat on either the AMD64 or EM64T
chips - is that correct?
I appreciate any comments.
Thanks,
Kevin
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Folks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006> <FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I wanted to put this out there for your
benefit:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>When I arrived at work this morning I had a voicemail
waiting for me. It was from some sales rep who works for "an HP Channel
Partner", and one of his people had seen my post and wanted to "provide me with
information"... </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Now, I don't know about you, but I'm not on this list to
receive sales pitches. I did NOT post a phone number, nor did I even include an
email signature indicating the compay I work for. Yet this person managed to
call me... Thanks, but no thanks. We get excellent pricing and support directly
from HP if we want it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Anyway, I'm not sure how others feel about this, but I'm
not thrilled about it - as you can probably tell.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>And to the sales people out there on the list - DO NOT
CALL
ME unless I ask you to!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=079454115-29082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Kevin</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nahant-list-bounces@(protected)
[mailto:nahant-list-bounces@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Collins, Kevin
[MindWorks]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 26, 2006 9:10 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon);
nahant-list@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Opinions AMD64 vs EM64T vs
Itanium
II<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Just wanted to say thanks for the many opinions that I
have
so far received. In our initial use, these servers will be for serving LDAP,
VNC, HTTP, etc. Nothing where huge performance is required. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>However, in the near future these systems will more than
likely also be used to investigate running SAP (on Oracle) and Oracle, so I do
appreciate the information.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=601190616-26082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Kevin</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> taroon-list-bounces@(protected)
[mailto:taroon-list-bounces@(protected)] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Collins, Kevin
[MindWorks]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 25, 2006 2:31 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
taroon-list@(protected); nahant-list@(protected)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Opinions
AMD64
vs EM64T vs Itanium II<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi folks,</FONT> </P>
<P> <FONT face=Arial size=2>we are in
the process of buying some blades for our HP blade center to use for Linux
servers. Since we are starting fresh, and I have no practical experience with
Linux on 64-bit, I figured I would ask for input from the Taroon and Nahant
list.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are there any technical reasons to prefer AMD64
(Opteron), EM64T (Xeon) or Itanium II CPUs? Are there things that don't work in
RedHat on any of those platforms with either RHEL3 or RHEL4? </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Beyond that, we are currently running 32-bit on
32bit
Xeon processors - I'm think I can also run 32-bit RedHat on either the AMD64 or
EM64T chips - is that correct?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I appreciate any comments.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Kevin</FONT> </P></BODY></HTML>
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