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Back Thanks Jon
I am thinking I will need to download the ISO's and rebuild from what you say. Reason for only going as far as update 4 is the software we use has only been tested and certified to work on RHEL 3 update 4. And if we install update 8 the company that provides the software will not support it.
Thanks for your help and advise.
Daniel.
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From: taroon-list-bounces@(protected) [mailto:taroon-list-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Stanley, Jon Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 3:05 p.m. To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon) Subject: RE: Installing update 4 for RHEL ES 3
Unfortuantely, it's not possible to do an upgrade via booting off of the CD from one update of RHEL3 to another.
I would be careful with the method I mentioned previously though - it may give you RPM conflicts that might take awhile to resolve (needing new ones, updated ones obseleting old ones, etc) Shouldn't be too painful though, but up2date would take care all of that for you.
I guess the question is why update 8 won't work - RedHat makes great pains to maintain compatibility between updates. The only thing that I know for a fact is substantially different between those two updates in the web browser has been re-based to seamonkey due to security issues. That being said, most people aren't using web browsers on servers, so that's why RedHat felt comfortable introducing breakage in the name of security (I speak as an outside observer, and not a represenative of redhat obviously). Most applications from ISV's are certified on, for instance, 2.4.21-15 and errata kernels. That qualifies update 3 (or whatever that one came with :-) ), and beyond. It really depends on what the application does, I guess.
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From: taroon-list-bounces@(protected) [mailto:taroon-list-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Lyttle, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:52 PM To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon) Subject: RE: Installing update 4 for RHEL ES 3
Thanks Jon
I only have the one Linux server, the rest are Windows so the Satellite option isn't a viable option. I am not overly familiar with the rpm command but I will research it a bit.
Is it possible to get the ISO's, burn to CD/DVD and boot of the CD's and do an upgrade only? If not I will try your first option and see how I get on.
Thanks,
Daniel.
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From: taroon-list-bounces@(protected) [mailto:taroon-list-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Stanley, Jon Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 2:43 p.m. To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon) Subject: RE: Installing update 4 for RHEL ES 3
To be a little more specific, you can download the ISO's, and then copy the RedHat/RPMS directory somewhere, and run an rpm -Fvh against all of those RPM's. It will only update those RPM's that are currently installed.
Also - this is a perfect use for an RHN Satellite. That way, you can still use up2date, and promote only those errata that have been thouroughly tested in your environment into your channel, having a separate channel for development, staging, and production. Satellite is quite expensive, however. It really depends on how many servers you have to manage.
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From: taroon-list-bounces@(protected) [mailto:taroon-list-bounces@(protected)] On Behalf Of Clif Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:34 PM To: Discussion of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (Taroon) Subject: Re: Installing update 4 for RHEL ES 3
Within RHN, go to Channels I think, and you can navigate to the ISO's. cjs
On 9/26/06, Lyttle, Daniel < daniel.lyttle@(protected) <mailto:daniel.lyttle@(protected)> > wrote:
Hi
This should be a simple question hopefully.
I currently have RHEL ES 3 with updates 3 and I need to install update 4 only as the software has only been tested with update 4. I don't want to use up2date because it looks as though it will download the latest update of 8 I think it is.
Is there a way for me to download the cd's I require and do an upgrade only to update 4? Or do I have to download all the ISO's and reinstall?
Thanks,
Daniel.
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am thinking I will need to download the ISO’s and rebuild from what you say. Reason for only going as far as update 4 is the software we use has only been tested and certified to work on RHEL 3 update 4. And if we install update 8 the company that provides the software will not support it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for your help and advise.<o:p></o:p ></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Unfortuantely, it's not possible to do an upgrade via booting off of the CD from one update of RHEL3 to another.</span>< /font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I would be careful with the method I mentioned previously though - it may give you RPM conflicts that might take awhile to resolve (needing new ones, updated ones obseleting old ones, etc) Shouldn't be too painful though, but up2date would take care all of that for you.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I guess the question is why update 8 won't work - RedHat makes great pains to maintain compatibility between updates. The only thing that I know for a fact is substantially different between those two updates in the web browser has been re-based to seamonkey due to security issues. That being said, most people aren't using web browsers on servers, so that's why RedHat felt comfortable introducing breakage in the name of security (I speak as an outside observer, and not a represenative of redhat obviously). Most applications from ISV's are certified on, for instance, 2.4.21-15 and errata kernels. That qualifies update 3 (or whatever that one came with :-) ), and beyond. It really depends on what the application does, I guess.<o:p></o:p></span></font>< /p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I only have the one Linux server, the rest are Windows so the Satellite option isn’t a viable option. I am not overly familiar with the rpm command but I will research it a bit.<o:p></o:p>< /span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is it possible to get the ISO’s, burn to CD/DVD and boot of the CD’s and do an upgrade only? If not I will try your first option and see how I get on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>To be a little more specific, you can download the ISO's, and then copy the RedHat/RPMS directory somewhere, and run an rpm -Fvh against all of those RPM's. It will only update those RPM's that are currently installed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Also - this is a perfect use for an RHN Satellite. That way, you can still use up2date, and promote only those errata that have been thouroughly tested in your environment into your channel, having a separate channel for development, staging, and production. Satellite is quite expensive, however. It really depends on how many servers you have to manage.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 9/26/06, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Lyttle, Daniel</span></b> <<a href="mailto:daniel.lyttle@(protected)"> daniel.lyttle@(protected)</a>> wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This should be a simple question hopefully.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I currently have RHEL ES 3 with updates 3 and I need to install update 4 only as the software has only been tested with update 4. I don't want to use up2date because it looks as though it will download the latest update of 8 I think it is.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is there a way for me to download the cd's I require and do an upgrade only to update 4? Or do I have to download all the ISO's and reinstall?</span></font><o :p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial' >Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial' >Daniel.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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